Irritating Vegetarians

[Narniaru]

i quit.

The world has indeed gone mad.

behind gusto's at 5:30?

Sorry, I am a front of the restaurant kinda lady

[goongirl]

Sorry, I am a front of the restaurant kinda lady

I had no idea you were such the exhibitionist! My my!

[Narniaru]

That's not what I meant

[DerekZoolander]

That's not what I meant

You like it in the rear in the front?

[bentonjapan]

That's not what I meant

外食しようか？

[rinnetensei]

I agree with Rinnetnensei. I don't even understand how vegetarians can kiss someone who eats meat.

Thank you!

I'm a little more lax than you though. It's kind of impossible to find someone I'm attracted to PERIOD- nevermind that I'd hope they'd be veg. and a nonsmoker. I don't expect someone to change their values for me anymore than I would for them. But I think longterm it WOULD really start to bother me. I don't mind living with omnivores. My roomies now are. But I have my own pans and tupperware and make sure everything is washed well cuz meat residue is freaking gross.

[LeprosyStudyGroup]

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[Crunchy Hamster]

Mmmm placenta.

[bentonjapan]

nsfw...

hotdog

hamburger

[Narniaru]

Thank you!

I'm a little more lax than you though. It's kind of impossible to find someone I'm attracted to PERIOD- nevermind that I'd hope they'd be veg. and a nonsmoker. I don't expect someone to change their values for me anymore than I would for them. But I think longterm it WOULD really start to bother me. I don't mind living with omnivores. My roomies now are. But I have my own pans and tupperware and make sure everything is washed well cuz meat residue is freaking gross.

Yeah I totally get that. I am actually a fairly relaxed person when it comes to mates. My mom drives my father and I mad because she loves cooking chicken livers and hearts for our dogs. Stinks something awful.
But yeah, actually dating someone long term, I would have problems.

[Jexebel]

Thank you!

I'm a little more lax than you though. It's kind of impossible to find someone I'm attracted to PERIOD- nevermind that I'd hope they'd be veg. and a nonsmoker. I don't expect someone to change their values for me anymore than I would for them. But I think longterm it WOULD really start to bother me. I don't mind living with omnivores. My roomies now are. But I have my own pans and tupperware and make sure everything is washed well cuz meat residue is freaking gross.

It's just a wonder nobody's snapped you up yet.

[rinnetensei]

Thank you!

I'm a little more lax than you though. It's kind of impossible to find someone I'm attracted to PERIOD- nevermind that I'd hope they'd be veg. and a nonsmoker. I don't expect someone to change their values for me anymore than I would for them. But I think longterm it WOULD really start to bother me. I don't mind living with omnivores. My roomies now are. But I have my own pans and tupperware and make sure everything is washed well cuz meat residue is freaking gross.

It's just a wonder nobody's snapped you up yet.

I'm not hard to live with. At least I keep shit clean...unlike my roommate who keeps brushing her teeth in the toilet sink and clogging it up w/toothpaste

[industry!]

I'm not hard to live with. At least I keep shit clean...unlike my roommate who keeps brushing her teeth in the toilet sink and clogging it up w/toothpaste

how much toothpaste does she use???

[mondai]

ok so goongirl can be a bitch at times and we all know what a spaz GG1 can be but seriously Rin and narniaru just sound like complete retards here. "I won't kiss someone who eats meat" "I won't cook meat for someone" etc etc.

When you grow up and become an dadult and have a relationship you might find your partner does some things differently to you. You can kick your feet and demand they change or break up with them if you want, or you can just accept them for who they are. D'ya think if GG1 got a divorce tomorrow her husband would eat any more or any less meat than he already does?

You both also sound like the kind of vegetarians who, (sorry slops) give vegetarians a bad name.

[rinnetensei]

ok so goongirl can be a bitch at times and we all know what a spaz GG1 can be but seriously Rin and narniaru just sound like complete retards here. "I won't kiss someone who eats meat" "I won't cook meat for someone" etc etc.

When you grow up and become an dadult and have a relationship you might find your partner does some things differently to you. You can kick your feet and demand they change or break up with them if you want, or you can just accept them for who they are. D'ya think if GG1 got a divorce tomorrow her husband would eat any more or any less meat than he already does?

You both also sound like the kind of vegetarians who, (sorry slops) give vegetarians a bad name.

I kiss people who eat meat all the time. I don't care about that, but I don't wanna kiss them RIGHT after they've eaten a burger or something. Seriously I just don't want the taste of meat in my mouth. (feel free to make lesbian jokes here)

And I really don't see what the big deal is, refusing to cook meat for someone. If you were allergic to shellfish or something you wouldn't go around cooking it for your significant other simply because he/she likes it. It's my personal choice and someone else can meet me there or not. Fvck em otherwise. Like I said before, I could care less if they wanna cook their own meat.

[industry!]

And I really don't see what the big deal is, refusing to cook meat for someone. If you were allergic to shellfish or something you wouldn't go around cooking it for your significant other simply because he/she likes it. It's my personal choice and someone else can meet me there or not. Fvck em otherwise. Like I said before, I could care less if they wanna cook their own meat.

the point was more about you giving GG1 shit for buying/cooking meat because it violates your values (as opposed to hers). and the shellfish allergy thing is a red herring. "i won't cook meat for you because i don't like it" and "i won't cook shellfish for you because doing so might kill me" are completely different issues. GG1 cooking meat for her husband won't kill her.

[rinnetensei]

And I really don't see what the big deal is, refusing to cook meat for someone. If you were allergic to shellfish or something you wouldn't go around cooking it for your significant other simply because he/she likes it. It's my personal choice and someone else can meet me there or not. Fvck em otherwise. Like I said before, I could care less if they wanna cook their own meat.

the point was more about you giving GG1 shit for buying/cooking meat because it violates your values (as opposed to hers). and the shellfish allergy thing is a red herring. "i won't cook meat for you because i don't like it" and "i won't cook shellfish for you because doing so might kill me" are completely different issues. GG1 cooking meat for her husband won't kill her.

Yeah, I understand that her doing that doesn't bother her. I don't know why cuz, as a fellow veg., I couldn't do it.

Okay, what I mean by the allergy comparison is that by touching or cooking meat- for me- that isn't just a case of 'Eww, I don't like it." It would cause me bodily harm to have to do that. Mentally, not physically, but same difference.

[TPS Reports]

Yeah, I understand that her doing that doesn't bother her. I don't know why cuz, as a fellow veg., I couldn't do it.

It would cause me bodily harm to have to do that. Mentally, not physically, but same difference.

[industry!]

Yeah, I understand that her doing that doesn't bother her. I don't know why cuz, as a fellow veg., I couldn't do it.

Okay, what I mean by the allergy comparison is that by touching or cooking meat- for me- that isn't just a case of 'Eww, I don't like it." It would cause me bodily harm to have to do that. Mentally, not physically, but same difference.

there aren't tenets to vegetarianism that one has to adhere to or else be kicked out of the club. you have your own rationale and beliefs, GG1 has hers. to call her a "fellow" vegetarian is not really accurate.

also, life-threatening allergies and emotional trauma as a result of being made to handle meat (daddy, no! ) are different. i'm not saying you don't have your reasons, i'm just saying you don't have to worry about going into shock or having your throat swell shut.

[mondai]

the "as a fellow veg" is where you are going wrong.

try to understand that not everyone is veg for the same reasons. My sister hates the taste of meat, the look and the texture and so she is a veg. I'm more concerned about meat production and enviromental effects, I personally love the taste of meat (just don't eat it).

Calling vegetarianism "your beliefs" sounds a bit weird to me, somewhat religious. You won't 'convert' anyone by preaching, -rather by leading by example. Being a holier than thou vegetarian will just turn people off -you're challenging their lifestyle after all and telling them they're bad people.

Besides, most vegetarians are utter cheats. Some eat fish, some eat eggs, but not fish eggs. Some eat chicken and call themselves vegetarians. I wouldn't call wearing leather cheating but what about whey protien (in many biscuits) wine and beers (I still drink them -thanks!), most hard cheese, things with gelatine, almost every kind of dashi and sauce in Japan. Creating an arbritary line among all this (and most of us do) and then castigating other people seems somewhat hypocritical.

[proxxy]

Some eat chicken and call themselves vegetarians.

Chicken is a vegetable. Man up.

[Mike Oxlong]

It's interesting. When people go vegetarian, they make a big deal of eating healthier breads, more variety of fruits and vegetables, and cleaning up their diet and lifestyle. They then claim every benefit they see to cutting meat. They pay no attention to the confounding variables of less refined food like white bread & and more whole grain foods like bread with nuts and seeds. They cut out refined sugar, and often alcohol and smoking as well. With so many changes, it's difficult to pin any changes down to a single variable. I suspect that going whole grain, along with the removal of refined sugar from the diet, and a focus on fresh produce as opposed to refined foods would be helpful to any diet, whether it included meat or not.

[rinnetensei]

the "as a fellow veg" is where you are going wrong.

try to understand that not everyone is veg for the same reasons. My sister hates the taste of meat, the look and the texture and so she is a veg. I'm more concerned about meat production and enviromental effects, I personally love the taste of meat (just don't eat it).

Calling vegetarianism "your beliefs" sounds a bit weird to me, somewhat religious. You won't 'convert' anyone by preaching, -rather by leading by example. Being a holier than thou vegetarian will just turn people off -you're challenging their lifestyle after all and telling them they're bad people.

Besides, most vegetarians are utter cheats. Some eat fish, some eat eggs, but not fish eggs. Some eat chicken and call themselves vegetarians. I wouldn't call wearing leather cheating but what about whey protien (in many biscuits) wine and beers (I still drink them -thanks!), most hard cheese, things with gelatine, almost every kind of dashi and sauce in Japan. Creating an arbritary line among all this (and most of us do) and then castigating other people seems somewhat hypocritical.

You're right. I FAIL. Ok, I take back what I said about GG1. Yeah, there are many kinds of veg. with different sets of rules- though the examples you listed would not be veg. at all.

HOWEVER vegetarianism IS kind of like a religion. It is something I believe in and will not go against for anyone.

[rinnetensei]

It's interesting. When people go vegetarian, they make a big deal of eating healthier breads, more variety of fruits and vegetables, and cleaning up their diet and lifestyle. They then claim every benefit they see to cutting meat. They pay no attention to the confounding variables of less refined food like white bread & and more whole grain foods like bread with nuts and seeds. They cut out refined sugar, and often alcohol and smoking as well. With so many changes, it's difficult to pin any changes down to a single variable. I suspect that going whole grain, along with the removal of refined sugar from the diet, and a focus on fresh produce as opposed to refined foods would be helpful to any diet, whether it included meat or not.

True, but not true for all veg. I made a point of eating healthily when I still ate chicken and fish. Plus it is important to note that protein is found in whole grains, so a person going veg. is not gonna be able to live well off of white bread and simple carbs.

[yamishogun]

I only read the last two pages so at least got to take in the goongirl v. rinnetensei fight. No need to pay for closed circuit if you got BD

But what about the new meat that those white coats are working on? You know, looks and tastes exactly like meat but.... isn't...?

[mondai]

It's interesting. When people go vegetarian, they make a big deal of eating healthier breads, more variety of fruits and vegetables, and cleaning up their diet and lifestyle. They then claim every benefit they see to cutting meat. They pay no attention to the confounding variables of less refined food like white bread & and more whole grain foods like bread with nuts and seeds. They cut out refined sugar, and often alcohol and smoking as well. With so many changes, it's difficult to pin any changes down to a single variable. I suspect that going whole grain, along with the removal of refined sugar from the diet, and a focus on fresh produce as opposed to refined foods would be helpful to any diet, whether it included meat or not.

this is what I like to call a sloppy argument (as in the poster). You create a weird notional enemy and then attack it. You imbibe the enemy with traits that they actually don't have and then you rag on those traits that you thought up. Slops will say something like "I bet so many Jap guys are wicked jealous when they see you with one of their women..." something like this for starters, (create the enemy) then attack "man those guys are such fags. y'know the irony is they are probably whacking off to white girl porn" or something (slops does it better) so we can all point at the fictional enemy and say something like "omg you're right! What hypocrites they are!!"

You did the same trick here, you invented a notional vegetarian. "When people go vegetarian, they make a big deal of eating healthier breads, more variety of fruits and vegetables, and cleaning up their diet and lifestyle." Do they? Dio they really or does it just help you to attack them if you imagine that they do? I certainly don't do any of those things. It must be all the "othher" vegetarians, right?

now for the attack "They pay no attention to the confounding variables of less refined food like white bread & and more whole grain foods like bread with nuts and seeds" OH MY GOD you're right! what idiots, what hypocrites!! You really pwned all those vegetarians that you just invented!! My god, they won't be making a big deal of anything again in a hurry (in your mind)

[Sloppy]

My wife and I both have the day off, so we just went to this mafia meat outlet in the crappy shooting gallery city down the river.

We bought:

* an 8 lb hickory smoked ham
* a bunch of big lamb shoulder chops
* some ground lamb
* 2 Cornish game hens
* 2 rabbits
* a bunch of ground pork and pork chops
* a bunch of nice marbleized assorted (beef) steaks
* a 7 lb corned beef brisket
* some pancetta
* a bunch of Italian sweet sausage
* some ground turkey
and some other shit that I probably left out,

...all for less than $70 bucks! The shit will last us months. Just divided it all up and wrapped it in freezer paper- filled our f*** freezer to the hilt.

Enjoy your lentil rice burgers!

[rai]

It's interesting. When people go vegetarian, they make a big deal of eating healthier breads, more variety of fruits and vegetables, and cleaning up their diet and lifestyle. They then claim every benefit they see to cutting meat. They pay no attention to the confounding variables of less refined food like white bread & and more whole grain foods like bread with nuts and seeds. They cut out refined sugar, and often alcohol and smoking as well. With so many changes, it's difficult to pin any changes down to a single variable. I suspect that going whole grain, along with the removal of refined sugar from the diet, and a focus on fresh produce as opposed to refined foods would be helpful to any diet, whether it included meat or not.

this is what I like to call a sloppy argument (as in the poster). You create a weird notional enemy and then attack it. You imbibe the enemy

Presumably after first running them through a blender.

[rai]

My wife and I both have the day off, so we just went to this mafia meat outlet in the crappy shooting gallery city down the river.

We bought:

* an 8 lb hickory smoked ham
* a bunch of big lamb shoulder chops
* some ground lamb
* 2 Cornish game hens
* 2 rabbits
* a bunch of ground pork and pork chops
* a bunch of nice marbleized assorted (beef) steaks
* a 7 lb corned beef brisket
* some pancetta
* a bunch of Italian sweet sausage
* some ground turkey
and some other shit that I probably left out,

...all for less than $70 bucks! The shit will last us months. Just divided it all up and wrapped it in freezer paper- filled our f*** freezer to the hilt.

Enjoy your lentil rice burgers!

My vegetarian friends are all laid back, easy-going people who never bother me about my meat-eating ways. People who go out of their way to demonstrate their ROWR! meat-eating ways to vegetarians, however, seem much more common. And tiresome.

[Mike Oxlong]

My vegetarian friends are all laid back, easy-going people who never bother me about my meat-eating ways. People who go out of their way to demonstrate their ROWR! meat-eating ways to vegetarians, however, seem much more common. And tiresome.

Many of my vegetarian friends are also laid back, and easy going when it comes to their lifestyle or other people's. The vegans I know, however, are generally card-carrying PETA hardcore activists, and are looking for converts.